Better vibes and vibe coding with Gemini 2.5
Ryan and Ben welcome Tulsee Doshi and Logan Kilpatrick from Google's DeepMind to discuss the advanced capabilities of the new Gemini 2.5.

Ryan and Ben welcome Tulsee Doshi and Logan Kilpatrick from Google's DeepMind to discuss the advanced capabilities of the new Gemini 2.5.
Today’s guest is Logan Kilpatrick, a senior product manager at Google, who tells Ben about his journey from software engineering to machine learning to product management, all with an emphasis on reducing developer friction. They talk through the challenges of non-determinism in AI models and how Google is addressing these issues with a new feature: Grounding with Google Search. Plus, what working at the Apple Store taught Logan about product management.
Ben talks with Ryan Polk, Chief Product Officer at Stack Overflow, about our strategic partnership with Google Cloud, the importance of collaboration between AI companies and the Stack Overflow community, and why Stack Overflow’s Q&A format is so suitable for training AI models.
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